carry. i mean, in the old days, in a way, you had it easier. people didn't come on, running for national office, on your show to unmake or make their careers. or shoot themselves in the foot, like dan quayle did. - well, i don't think he shot himself in the foot; i think the press shot him in the foot, but i don't know how the public perceived it. in other words-- this is kind of inside the beltway stuff--sometimes we sit inside the beltway and say, "boy, dan quayle did poorly". how do you know he didn't touch that father in des moines by saying he'd support his child? how do you know he didn't humanize himself a lot? we don't know that, because a lot of times we're behind the public, because this medium is so intense and so quick that-- for example, perot. the last people to pick up perot were the david broders, george wills, op-ed columnists--last ones to see him. they're in a cocoon, they're in washington, we all eat at the same place, we all converse. they never talk to des moines, so i don't know that dan quayle did poorly.